Cliffy

I finally bought TR: Legend whilst on holiday, and first stuck it in the trusty PS2 this morning. My initial thought is that it's certainly a massive step forward from AoD which in my opinion atleast, was not the best game in the series, lol. I'm only as far as Peru at the moment so I've got like the whole game to do yet. I have heard people say that it's a bit too short in length and a bit easy on all but the hardest game setting (I'm on normal and it seems okay to me, lol), but I'm sure the other factors will make these look like minor negative points! No doubt I'll be asking questions soon though, afterall, my initial joining of LCO was when I needed help on AoD....I've been here ever sinse, lol

Blimey, sounds like we just missed each other, Angel, lol. I've just returned from a two week break in Westward Ho! North Devon, about 30(ish) miles from Bude. I must confess I've always been a lover of Cream Teas, although I haven't endulged nearly as much as I would have liked, lol. The weather was good for the duration of our stay with the exception of a few days. I must say I was intrigued by the illustruous Lundy Island I saw in the distance, lol....

I'm not sure about the validility of this one now, so I moved it over here anyway but didn't copy the entire thread, mainly due to it's size, lol. I carry on and please let me know if it's a tad out of date, lol

Originally posted by, Reggie Hey Everyone! This vote is all about what Lara and Kurtis felt for each other if anything at all... The results of this will also be taken into account for the REBORN project a project which involves making Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness part 2. ~Reggie

Originally posted by, larapistols No not for me he was hard to move. Is Kurtis every thing you whanted?

screamer: well he wanted to take revenge on the one that killed his father. Acid_Rush: Plot-wise, Kurtis is there to add an element of mystery to the game since it's not clear straight away whose side he is on. He also ties Eckhardt in with the Lux Veritatis rather than having the same cult that imprisoned him be nothing more than a name in a book, and shows that the Cabal's activities had further reaching consequences than just the Monstrum thing in Paris and Prague. Also, he's a love interest for Lara, helping to make her a little more human along with all the other aspects they added to Lara to make her less of an impossible heroine. Not only that, but without Kurtis' levels we couldn't have seen half of the plot, since Lara wasn't there. He extends the plot for the player, makes it bigger, more complex and thus more realistic. Gameplay-wise, he was there as part of Core's ambition to create a TR that was more 'next generation' than just in graphics and console platform. He was TR's first second playable character, he bought a whole new set of skills that it wasn't believable to give to Lara (or would have had the game been finished and he'd got the full repertoire he was meant to) and he was the eye-candy that the girls hadn't had before, whereas the guys had always had Lara. He was originally supposed to have more than just three levels - I suspect you probably had to play his little sub-adventure that sees him getting captured after he attempts to get the third Shard, among other things. Back to top Kramer: I saw the title of this topic and already was writing my reply mentally. Then I scroll down to the end and see that Acid already wrote everything I wanted to put Thanks a lot, that is exactly my view of Kurtis and his role in AOD. I hope that one day there will be a stand alone game of Kurtis the Lux Veritatis warrior. It would be bit of a mixture of Max Payne, Tomb Raider and any horror survival game Acid_Rush: No problem whatsoever. We seem to think alike. I'd love a Kurtis game. Maybe Lara could make a guest appearance in a level or two. Lora121389: Yep, I agree. I saw once they are maybe going to make a Kurtis Trent game. I'd buy it in a sec! The game would probably be sold out in a day Angel_Trent: Eidos will never permit to put lara there. larapistols: I think the the person hoe made the game whanted a new person in the game. Not just Lara. And that was a bad thing to do for the game Kurtis can't use the that thing on his hip. Why didn't they let you have it in the game. I think Kurtis didn't have to be in the game Acid_Rush: The thing on the his hip is called the chirugai (or glaive according to some sources) and originally he was supposed to be able to use it, but AOD wasn't finished so a lot of Kurtis and Lara's planned moves weren't included. And I've already explained my views on why he *should* have been in it. Kramer: Just Kurtis is enough, uh? Acid_Rush: Oh, yes, Kurtis is *plenty* enough for me... lara pistolsOoo so that why I can't use chirugai. Thanks for telling me!!! Acid_Rush. If thay won't make Kutris in tomb raider AOD then eat gun powder just kiding hehe Legend Raider: I doubt that after AOD?s flop they would make a new Kurtis game. When I think everything AOD could have been if they only finished it... darn. larapistols: I think Kurtis was a one time thing Angel_Trent: Nah....Kurtis woulde make a cool game.Just like Shade larapistols: Ya he could. To bad you can't play as Lara and Kurtis at the same time Kramer: It was meant to be like that in AOD The original idea was to get Lara and Kurtis to go together through the sanatorium. Lara would do the jumping and climbing, while Kurtis would open doors, find codes and kill zombies with his chirugai. The player could flick between the characters to proceed through the area. Angel_Trent: Where did all this came from? Kramer: ^^ A guy from Eidos told it at tombraiderchronicles.com, while ago Acid_Rush: That would've been so much fun, it worked really well in Lego Star Wars. larapistols: Did you now about Lego star wars 2 go here and she for yourself http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3story.html?si...&pid=931976

Originally posted by, polishmadman I mean hes cool and all, with his bike n stuff but why? why does he rain on lara's parade. He cant do much and theres only 3 levels with him. I'd just like to hear your views bout this topic. thnkz a million

larapistols: Well you might be in luck The bad guy at the end of the game, you now the one that could change in to anyone. Maybe Kurtis is still alive Kalie: yha i gess he could be Acid_Rush: I always thought he'd survived. He did in most of the fanfics out there, at least! Kramer: It's kinda up to everyone's imagination For me he's alive. dextette666: It's sad that it is left to the imagination though. I'm still so gutted that they completely wrote off Lara's whole story. AJ=TR: I'd say alive. I mean, the way they ended the scene in AoD, it was like Lara realized that too. L ange des tenebres: Alive! Definately alive. I hope.... gosh, I wish they'd finish the AoD trilogy!! I mean, don't get me wrong, I loved TRL, but I wish they'd have finished what they'd started first.... pathetic manfool: i hope he is dead...no offense but i didnt really like the character...its fine as a story line character but as far as a second playable character....he sucks. reasons why... he moves like freakin truck...he looks all powerful and he has farsee ability, yet he has problems climbing up a simple ledge...wow...i think they honestly could have gone without it....ANGEL OF DARKNESS was bad enough let alone with kurtis in it IMO... Kalie: lol he does kind of move like a truck!!! lol

Originally posted by Kalie even if he is dead he will always be alive to me

larapistols: I think i would just talk to him I don't now what I would say Kramer: I'm not sure he's a really talkative guy but yeah. Acid_Rush: I'd challenge him to a shooting competition. I'd lose, of course. L ange des tenebres: gosh, I wouldn't be able to resist! lol. (hey, I am one of the newest memebers of the KTEB.. lol) Angel_Trent: Kiss him and then say....erm....that I mixed him with Kramer Kalie: sorry about the spelling problems i'm like the worst speller ever lol larapistols:I am bad to Kurtis would kill me if he found out that dextette666: All of them In correct circumstances of course Kalie: if i didn't slap him i would prob. just talk to him Lara-IWANNABE-Lara: he is kinda cute, if i wer older i wud definately talk 2 him and ask him out. i like bad boys, but my current b.f. wud kill me! i know im only 12 but if some1 has the right face for it facial hair is a turn on 4 me! and blue eyes. lol, and maybe some strong arms but he doesnt need to haf a great chest and stomach arms r fine Purple: Well then you should of Voted for Kiss Him since you won't know what to say? Kalie: lol lol it looks like so far votes 5 of them say kiss him! lol*** Purple: Yup!

Originally posted by Kalie i think i would slap him for not asking out lara

Purple: Defenetly, I voted YES for Kurtis Trent on future Tomb Raider games. Lara-IWANNABE-Lara: I vote yes, too. Just to see what he looks like Screamer: bigger muscle's, same hair, cuter ass . simply more handsome Lara-IWANNABE-Lara: lol, i wanna' see summa' tht! ''wait, honey no its not wat it looks like! but he's not even real!'' Kramer: They should keep him the same, but just with improved graphics and revamped controls of course Acid_Rush: And manage to include all his moves this time - everything from the sprint to the chirugai! I'm sure he'd have been so much more popular if he'd got all the moves he was intended to have and didn't control like he was moving in treacle. Kalie: auhhuuu hotie . i agree with Karmer with beter controls to!!! Purple: I Agree

Originally posted by, larapistols maybe the will make him on the 9th game. It would be cool to see him again

Originally posted by, Kalie i say yes ;D because it would be cool to see the character in the future TR games. and maybe they would make it so kurtis will aim beter and move better!